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	<title>Comments on: Must be nice to turn down $1 billion</title>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.mightybargainhunter.com/2006/10/29/must-be-nice-to-turn-down-1-billion/comment-page-1/#comment-12063</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 07:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ultimately, in a business buyout, failure is often more about problems with the structure of the deal and other fine-print items than with the big headline sum. Without seeing the terms and being familiar with Facebook&#039;s operations, I couldn&#039;t say whether it&#039;s a bad decision or not...I defer to their board and executive team as more knowledgeable about the facts than me.

A few companies are indeed being bought out for more than they appear to be worth on paper. But I don&#039;t think the Facebook deal would have been one of those. Facebook is in the black. They don&#039;t _need_ to get bought, because they&#039;re not facing an imminent cash crisis like so many late-stage dotcoms were.

I can easily imagine a combination of business structure and deal structure where, if offered $1B for my business, I&#039;d pass. Of course, I don&#039;t have a business anyone would pay $1B for, but I do have a profitable and growing enterprise, and I do know how counterintuitive some of those valuation decisions can be...and how tricky the fine print can be in the deals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ultimately, in a business buyout, failure is often more about problems with the structure of the deal and other fine-print items than with the big headline sum. Without seeing the terms and being familiar with Facebook&#8217;s operations, I couldn&#8217;t say whether it&#8217;s a bad decision or not&#8230;I defer to their board and executive team as more knowledgeable about the facts than me.</p>
<p>A few companies are indeed being bought out for more than they appear to be worth on paper. But I don&#8217;t think the Facebook deal would have been one of those. Facebook is in the black. They don&#8217;t _need_ to get bought, because they&#8217;re not facing an imminent cash crisis like so many late-stage dotcoms were.</p>
<p>I can easily imagine a combination of business structure and deal structure where, if offered $1B for my business, I&#8217;d pass. Of course, I don&#8217;t have a business anyone would pay $1B for, but I do have a profitable and growing enterprise, and I do know how counterintuitive some of those valuation decisions can be&#8230;and how tricky the fine print can be in the deals.</p>
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		<title>By: Paige</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paige</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Facebook is worth the money because it&#039;s an extremely personal database of the likes and dislikes of young, rich, and educated North America. If a company wants unlimted access to this demographic (and they do, and they will) Zuckerberg will get the $2bil he&#039;s holding out for...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Facebook is worth the money because it&#8217;s an extremely personal database of the likes and dislikes of young, rich, and educated North America. If a company wants unlimted access to this demographic (and they do, and they will) Zuckerberg will get the $2bil he&#8217;s holding out for&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dimes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dimes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Facebook isn&#039;t worth one billion dollars, sorry.  Those guys who are holding out will probably end up with nothing (and really, will anyone be worse off?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Facebook isn&#8217;t worth one billion dollars, sorry.  Those guys who are holding out will probably end up with nothing (and really, will anyone be worse off?).</p>
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		<title>By: mbhunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>mbhunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 06:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points.

It would be dumb to sell Google for $1B.  A P/E of 20 (which would be what Facebook&#039;s valution would be at $1B) is not extravagant, but it&#039;s not Buffett cheap either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points.</p>
<p>It would be dumb to sell Google for $1B.  A P/E of 20 (which would be what Facebook&#8217;s valution would be at $1B) is not extravagant, but it&#8217;s not Buffett cheap either.</p>
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		<title>By: Lazy Man And Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lazy Man And Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 03:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well if you use YouTube as the measuring stick, I think that Facebook is worth about 3B.  My rationale here is that YouTube never really figured out a way to monetize their traffic.  Facebook on the other hand, has something like 95% of every high school and college student in the US.  It&#039;s pretty easy to come up with ads to target there.  It can be much more targettable than MySpace, where anyone of any age has an account.

I don&#039;t know how Alexa factors in the time spent there, but it&#039;s literally hours a day for the school kids.

According to their wikipedia entry they bring in about 1M a week or $50M a year (we&#039;ll just round down).  I think that would make very profittable meaning that they don&#039;t need to sell like many of the companies in Web 1.0.  If there weren&#039;t profitable it would be really ridiculous, but as long as they making money and growing, maybe it&#039;s worthwhile to roll the dice.  

Here&#039;s a parting thought... What if you put a billion dollars in the hand for a 100% share in Google?  Given their market cap and cash on hand, they would chuckle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if you use YouTube as the measuring stick, I think that Facebook is worth about 3B.  My rationale here is that YouTube never really figured out a way to monetize their traffic.  Facebook on the other hand, has something like 95% of every high school and college student in the US.  It&#8217;s pretty easy to come up with ads to target there.  It can be much more targettable than MySpace, where anyone of any age has an account.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how Alexa factors in the time spent there, but it&#8217;s literally hours a day for the school kids.</p>
<p>According to their wikipedia entry they bring in about 1M a week or $50M a year (we&#8217;ll just round down).  I think that would make very profittable meaning that they don&#8217;t need to sell like many of the companies in Web 1.0.  If there weren&#8217;t profitable it would be really ridiculous, but as long as they making money and growing, maybe it&#8217;s worthwhile to roll the dice.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a parting thought&#8230; What if you put a billion dollars in the hand for a 100% share in Google?  Given their market cap and cash on hand, they would chuckle.</p>
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		<title>By: Flexo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flexo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2006 15:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever visited Facebook.com, but I can&#039;t imagine that whatever they have there is worth $1B.  I think we&#039;re seeing some serious overvaluation at the moment in the market in general... I would have taken the money and ran.  They&#039;re some greedy mo-fos.  

On the other hand, if they really think their business is worth that much or more, they should be getting the best advice in the world before making these decisions, so a number of people must agree that the business is worth that much or more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever visited Facebook.com, but I can&#8217;t imagine that whatever they have there is worth $1B.  I think we&#8217;re seeing some serious overvaluation at the moment in the market in general&#8230; I would have taken the money and ran.  They&#8217;re some greedy mo-fos.  </p>
<p>On the other hand, if they really think their business is worth that much or more, they should be getting the best advice in the world before making these decisions, so a number of people must agree that the business is worth that much or more.</p>
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