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	<title>Comments on: Buying a cheap gas guzzler may backfire</title>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.mightybargainhunter.com/2008/06/15/buying-a-cheap-gas-guzzler-may-backfire/comment-page-1/#comment-142198</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 02:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re worried about fuel shortages (rationing), you want to buy a diesel vehicle.

25 year old Mercedes diesels are cheap and still get nearly 30 mpg highway.

Why diesel?

Because it&#039;s the only liquid fuel you can store in large (several hundred gallons even in the city) quantity safely and legally (can&#039;t do that with gasoline - too volatile)

Home heating oil is little more than on-road diesel plus dye (to show road taxes haven&#039;t been paid).

Buy a *new* &quot;heating oil&quot; tank (275 gallons), and make sure the delivery person knows to fill it full of on-road diesel, not home heating oil (&quot;for my new generator, yeah, that&#039;s the ticket&quot;)

Then you have several weeks or months of fuel on hand in case of shortages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re worried about fuel shortages (rationing), you want to buy a diesel vehicle.</p>
<p>25 year old Mercedes diesels are cheap and still get nearly 30 mpg highway.</p>
<p>Why diesel?</p>
<p>Because it&#8217;s the only liquid fuel you can store in large (several hundred gallons even in the city) quantity safely and legally (can&#8217;t do that with gasoline &#8211; too volatile)</p>
<p>Home heating oil is little more than on-road diesel plus dye (to show road taxes haven&#8217;t been paid).</p>
<p>Buy a *new* &#8220;heating oil&#8221; tank (275 gallons), and make sure the delivery person knows to fill it full of on-road diesel, not home heating oil (&#8221;for my new generator, yeah, that&#8217;s the ticket&#8221;)</p>
<p>Then you have several weeks or months of fuel on hand in case of shortages.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://www.mightybargainhunter.com/2008/06/15/buying-a-cheap-gas-guzzler-may-backfire/comment-page-1/#comment-142037</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re looking at buying a Honda Pilot (20 mpg), because we have a large family (well, we will someday) and need the room. Comparing the price to a minivan that gets the same mpg, we can save a lot of money by buying an SUV. And since it will be used a kid hauler (I&#039;m a SAHM with kids who ride the bus and walk to the park, I don&#039;t drive much) the gas won&#039;t be horrible (I hope not anyway!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re looking at buying a Honda Pilot (20 mpg), because we have a large family (well, we will someday) and need the room. Comparing the price to a minivan that gets the same mpg, we can save a lot of money by buying an SUV. And since it will be used a kid hauler (I&#8217;m a SAHM with kids who ride the bus and walk to the park, I don&#8217;t drive much) the gas won&#8217;t be horrible (I hope not anyway!).</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.mightybargainhunter.com/2008/06/15/buying-a-cheap-gas-guzzler-may-backfire/comment-page-1/#comment-142034</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buying one of those gas guzzlers is getting very temping.  I live in a northern climate and drive between 5000 to 8000 miles a year.  Comparing a newer honda civic at 17000 miles (30/40 mpg) to a used expediation 2000 with 68000 miles (14/16 mpg) what I am finding in the difference in purchase price of 10,000 dollars really isn&#039;t enough to offset the better gas mileage of the civic.  Whatever I spend in gas for the Expediation would be halved with the civic, so if I saved 1500 a year with the civic it would take me 6.5 years to recoup the savings from the gas costs.  I would rather buy the better car for gas mileage, but is I can find a good car for 1/3 the cost I can&#039;t ignore it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buying one of those gas guzzlers is getting very temping.  I live in a northern climate and drive between 5000 to 8000 miles a year.  Comparing a newer honda civic at 17000 miles (30/40 mpg) to a used expediation 2000 with 68000 miles (14/16 mpg) what I am finding in the difference in purchase price of 10,000 dollars really isn&#8217;t enough to offset the better gas mileage of the civic.  Whatever I spend in gas for the Expediation would be halved with the civic, so if I saved 1500 a year with the civic it would take me 6.5 years to recoup the savings from the gas costs.  I would rather buy the better car for gas mileage, but is I can find a good car for 1/3 the cost I can&#8217;t ignore it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dwayne</title>
		<link>http://www.mightybargainhunter.com/2008/06/15/buying-a-cheap-gas-guzzler-may-backfire/comment-page-1/#comment-141962</link>
		<dc:creator>Dwayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 04:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If your buying the guzzler as a second car, this is the time to do it. New cars dealers have some great incentive because they can&#039;t get rid of their allotment and used car dealers are sitting on  inventory they can&#039;t sell.

If your a multiple car family this is a great time to get the larger vehicle you couldn&#039;t get before.  Just make sure you have an economical vehicle to do the long hauls in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your buying the guzzler as a second car, this is the time to do it. New cars dealers have some great incentive because they can&#8217;t get rid of their allotment and used car dealers are sitting on  inventory they can&#8217;t sell.</p>
<p>If your a multiple car family this is a great time to get the larger vehicle you couldn&#8217;t get before.  Just make sure you have an economical vehicle to do the long hauls in.</p>
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		<title>By: Monika</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought a new 2008 Versa last year and put in less than 500 miles a month sometimes driving it for weekly errands only to make it run. We use our Civic more often as that gives us 32-36 miles vs. the Versa&#039;s 26-30 miles. When we need a Van we borrow from our friends. I am looking at trading this Versa for a van. The gas cost is definitely affordable for me, do you think there are people that will swap my Versa and pay a price difference for a guzzler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought a new 2008 Versa last year and put in less than 500 miles a month sometimes driving it for weekly errands only to make it run. We use our Civic more often as that gives us 32-36 miles vs. the Versa&#8217;s 26-30 miles. When we need a Van we borrow from our friends. I am looking at trading this Versa for a van. The gas cost is definitely affordable for me, do you think there are people that will swap my Versa and pay a price difference for a guzzler.</p>
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		<title>By: rzrshrp</title>
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		<dc:creator>rzrshrp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s still good to buy one if 1)You won&#039;t be driving it often or 2)You actually need it.  I&#039;ve always wanted to own a pickup truck so that I can stop paying to rent trucks like twice a year. A more industrious person could also make a little more money by doing small-hauling jobs.  I&#039;d only take it out when I need it though and use my decently efficient car for everything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s still good to buy one if 1)You won&#8217;t be driving it often or 2)You actually need it.  I&#8217;ve always wanted to own a pickup truck so that I can stop paying to rent trucks like twice a year. A more industrious person could also make a little more money by doing small-hauling jobs.  I&#8217;d only take it out when I need it though and use my decently efficient car for everything else.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 04:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but taking advantage of this opportunity to buy a 35k gas guzzler for 15k can also be a very good idea. For example, if you are thinking about buying a minivan and don&#039;t drive a lot of miles, than you can get a much better deal on a large SUV. This opportunity will soon be gone as prices of materials are going up very fast. After 8-months of low prices, the supply will fall with demand and the next year large SUV&#039;s will cost a lot more money.

Maybe even consider the current market an investment opportunity. Consider buying 10 SUV&#039;s, storing them for one year and selling them on the market for a lot more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but taking advantage of this opportunity to buy a 35k gas guzzler for 15k can also be a very good idea. For example, if you are thinking about buying a minivan and don&#8217;t drive a lot of miles, than you can get a much better deal on a large SUV. This opportunity will soon be gone as prices of materials are going up very fast. After 8-months of low prices, the supply will fall with demand and the next year large SUV&#8217;s will cost a lot more money.</p>
<p>Maybe even consider the current market an investment opportunity. Consider buying 10 SUV&#8217;s, storing them for one year and selling them on the market for a lot more.</p>
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